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Richard epstein, the great university of chicago law professor. there's a real libertarian. and these college libertarian are of a slightly different breed. it's more wanting a sense of belonging and they have an awful lot of liberal habits and accepting or one issue, but in terms of actual libertarian ideas, that's the republican party and frankly, we could use a little help. there's an awful light that could be privatized. the lesson of history is, everything run by the government over time becomes more expensive and worse. everything that is injected through competition on the private marke...

>> i think it's national, too, adam, i'm not sure what the situation is in san francisco, but they're a little bit more elitist sometimes than new york city. >> yeah, you know, i'm not sure of my facts here, i don't think we have a wal-mart in san francisco, and i don't think it's a -- it's a labor issue necessarily. this is very similar to our last conversation, i mean, every-- i agree this is not a national issue, people in new york are-- >> and making the choice. >> wal-mart, they're making to make it-- >> let adam finish and it then we'll pile up on him. go ahead, adam. >> i don't think, b...

Flat screen tv. are you kidding me? >> if you want a policy debate, you want to tell me how many businesses will go out of business. i'm not saying -- >> last word, gary. >> walmart is is a job creating machine. to stop them from creating more jobs in a city that needs it is insane. >> you can't prove that. >> i will say what we can't prove, every shop they shut down there is thousand jobs created. let's leave it there. >> coming up, coming to our country illegally, just place $50,000. should this plan be making sense? we go at it but up here first. a record jumping college tuition is it time ...

And now a plane. take a look at this. this plane, which used to belong to some leaders in -- east german leaders, has a jacuzzi, a sauna, a bar, a luxury kitchen, a flat screen tv. he's invested in this thing. fits two or three very comfortably. this plane has been converted into a high-end hotel. kind of cool. >> i can dig that. if you were watching the academy awards yesterday, you saw one of the biggest moments of the night is when the first lady went on there and she was the one that announced best picture of the night. so we saw that she was wearing this dress, a beautiful dress. it was m...

Take a look at this. this plane, which used to belong to some leaders in -- east german leaders, has a jacuzzi, a sauna, a bar, a luxury kitchen, a flat screen tv. he's invested in this thing. fits two or three very comfortably. this plane has been converted into a high-end hotel. kind of cool. >> i can dig that. if you were watching the academy awards yesterday, you saw one of the biggest moments of the night is when the first lady went on there and she was the one that announced best picture of the night. so we saw that she was wearing this dress, a beautiful dress. it was metallic and spagh...