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But doesn't seem like. >> i have you done flight simulations? ever tried it? >> no we do not. we don't practice those types of simulations. it's not a practical thing because you get to that point you know how to land an airplane so this is a matter of landing in the an unusual surface area. >> david you and i were talking off camera and i was needing comfort from you given the title of your book and the fact we all fly. there was some notion did this plane just fall out of the sky? and they don't just fall. the way they are designed is -- what was the statistic you were saying? the rate a pla...

Necessarily the case. >> so the bodies that were found in the water were intact right? >> yes. >> and there was some debris fleeting on top of the water but not very much. >> right. >> supposedly they see this large shadow underneath the water. if the plane did go into this steep climb and went into a stall, how would it have hit the water? >> the two don't really make they're not interdependent. if it did stall there's 50 different kinds of stalls but if it was a deep stall, which is the power is on and it's flying through and a steep ang lar attack and stalls quickly, that's do i have to rec...

Aircraft once it was in the water. >> maybe a ditching attempt. >> the other clue is the distance from where it had the last point of contact. at first they told us it was six miles. judged by that it would be a flat spin. it would be a spiral straight down uncontrollably now we find out it's 100 miles, 120 miles from where it was spotted. if you take 17-1 glide ratio which that aircraft has without engine power, it would put it exactly there and now you put those together with no assumptions, we put the clues together and that's where i'm at right now. it doesn't mean that's what happened. as...

In-flight break-up or not a significant one at least. because of the location of the deceased and the location of the where the debris is. it's all centrally located. >> when you look at the map and we layer on weather. you look at the flight path and you look at the weather, this tells a story. there were at least three monster thunderstorms. some you know whether experts telling us it would have been difficult to get around it all the way. you see the flight path and the huge red thunderstorms. can you layer it on top to see exactly what it looked like. >> think about what the pilot was look...

Out of the boat, just in case things went wrong. >> luckily, dasher doesn't have to use it. >> it worked out great. not only did i sit upright on the boat, i could do spins, a flat spin, i could kind of pump back and forth and push the air and then kind of tuck up and roll the boat, just like you roll a kayak. >> he even sticks the tricky landing. >> when you're landing in this boat, you're in an l-seated position, and basically, you're going to take the impact with your back. so, you want to just kind of nail it and just skim and then settle it in real nice. >> from that moment, miles is hook...