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But give good law abiding citizens their access to guns. >> show me the district, show me where someone is from and i'll give you 99 -- >> how they will vote. >> for the most part. >> my former congressional district, you know, the 26 eastern counties of arkansas. >> you couldn't vote for this legislation. >> i voted for the assault weapons ban in '94. ran for re-election. >> how did you do it? >> i went to every single flchlt nra meeting i could and talked to them. i said if you need 47 rounds to get a deer, you ned a new hobby or target practice. talking about what it means to us culturally....

Monday reminding republicans of statements they made on background checks just a few months ago. >> all of us, republicans and democrats, have recognized that we need more effective and broader background checks. >> i think there is discussion or chatter about strengthening and improving the background checks. >> i want to take it beyond discussion and chatter. can we get you on the record saying you think that will likely pass through congress, the idea of universal background checks. >> and if it is something you can vote for. >> i think it is a reasonable step forward. >> okay. >> reid will...

Eroding. now we're seeing the split personality of the states. >> it is not eroding -- >> my point is, if you look at the state level, states that have democratic control of legislatures and governors -- >> you're talking mostly northeastern, very liberal states with -- >> colorado is an all democratic controlled state. my point is, is the nra cutting off its nose despite its face. they're alienate something ing r democratic supporters, john hickenlooper who decided no, he'll sign on to some of the bills. >> you run the risk of becoming, again, classified as the extremist. >> or classified as ...

A number of powerful groups, like saying nfib is a powerful group. there are a lot of small business people that come to washington with a predisposition -- >> aren't they different in their ability to galvanize. they do have a lengthy membership that is an active political -- >> so do other groups. a lot of groups do that. here is the difference. in some cases, with regard to some members, otherwise predisposed to support gun control, they'll have the influence of a marginal seat. that's basically where the power is. >> and, you know, they do have a big membership. and they have a great outre...

It is not even ideological. it is cultural. it is -- the numbers are predisposed to be pro second amendment. i think to some extent the power is overblown. i think -- >> you agree with me. >> you think the power is overblown? >> on this line, i have to say, when you have 91 -- all the background checks and a vote where nobody was going to record it, the background check bill would pass, don't you think? >> yeah. i grew up in this culture. i owned guns all my life. i've hunted, my husband as well, he's a lifetime member of the nra, a gift from his godfather. we get all that propaganda in the ma...