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yeah, you can. sit down. sit down. there you go. though returning to the cellblock was difficult, talley told us it was also cathartic. yeah, i was down for a while. but i m not dead. they didn t kill me. i m okay. emotionally, i ll heal someday. and the sleepless nights and the worry and the wonder, oh, my god, is this ever going to happen to me again? i ve dealt with most of that and it s really a hard thing. next, on lockup: raw, an inmate turns violent against himself. i swear i ll break my neck [ bleep ]. yeah, i love pain! yeah, yeah! ....
i can t say i m sane. i m pretty off balance, but i keep it in a certain amount of control. another inmate at kentucky state penitentiary who is no stranger to cell extractions is victor hiatt. prior to interviewing him, our producer was duly warned. victor hiatt is a very, very dangerous individual. probably the most dangerous individual in this institution. i remember watching victor being led to the interview. and he had such an intense security detail that it almost felt like i was about to interview hannibal lecter, quite frankly. he was cuffed behind his back. but i ll never forget, it was like a normal, fiberglass and metal cafeteria chair. there was nothing special about that chair. and he wasn t chained to the chair itself. the chair was not secured to the ground in any way. ....
Respond to me. so we know you are all right. let s go a little bit more. okay. okay. joel brooks is doing 12 years for assault. his adversary, john seiko, is serving a six-year sentence for sexual assault. our cameras were there when officers interrogated them about the fight. what was this all about? well, he s a rapist. i was talking with an inmate in the meal line about it with him. you were talking about his crime with a prisoner. yeah, yeah. okay. i was talking with a prisoner about him being a rapist. he came up to me and he said, you ain t [ bleep ]. and i said, you re not. i told him to stop talking about me and i repeated it. and he said, what are you going to do? and i repeated it again, stop talking about me. and then he walked up to me in my face and said, now what are you going to do? five minutes later he bum rushed me. don t come at me. slammed me against the wall. i put my hand in his face. ....
no, come on and play. are you scared? you wasn t scared when you came in. come on. for matthew campbell and other inmates not confined to the segregation unit or death row, the yard at ksp is one place to momentarily escape the tedium of prison life. it s kind of the central park of the kentucky state penitentiary. there s somebody at the horseshoe pits about all the time, and all the basketball courts are off the hill on the backside. there s a lot of them that will play that all day long. the prison population at ksp informally divides itself into two groups who don t see eye to eye. there s the old school of hardened criminals like fleece johnson, known as convicts, versus the newcomers to the prison system known simply as inmates. we are getting inmates that are transferring into this facility that are very young, ....
Slow down with their poor behavior. they learn that arguing with authority figures is not the way to go. here s my rap sheet. like you can see, armed robbery, 74. these is all the charges, wanton endangerment in the first degree, assault, first degree. assault in the third degree, assault in the third degree, another assault in the third degree. another assault in third degree. them is all the charges i picked up in the prison system. so now things are different. see, i done growed up. while fleece johnson s violent acts are in his past open number 20. there is one inmate at ksp who is considered the most menacing. victor hiatt is serving a life sentence for murder. he has the reputation of being the most violent inmate in the state and had to wear restraints for this interview. i ve accepted my own death so i don t worry about dying. ....