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But look, joe biden is more than double that of bernie sanders. >> what's interesting about this, and i think maureen makes a good point. joe biden connects with white middle class, at least he did. that very much translates to 2016, so the question becomes whether or not hillary clinton has a glass draw. she does, because her numbers are so soft. we see that so well with the huge numbers bernie sanders is getting in the poll. the vast majority of people are saying, you know what, i respect secretary clinton, i think she's a very smart person, but there's something about the trust factor here ...

And white, figuratively speaking, but when you're governing it turns to shades of gray. remember, this is a republican primary and remember there are a lot of conservative voters out there saying to your point china, the scare. i see my job going to beijing and it's not coming back. i see the browning of america and they don't look like me, so therefore, this is a country i don't recognize anymore. the point donald trump is making and also these other people are making in the republican field, it resonates with the republican voter. i'm not saying it's right, but those are the retail politics....

It on the blog. this is the real clear politics.com graph of an obama versus romney head-to-head race, starts in mid-october. president obama on top the blue line, mr. romney the red line coming in lower. the point out which things start to go badly for mr. romney, the in flexion point you can see there, that point, that date, february 3rd, february 3rd, why is that date he oh what was going on for mitt romney february 3rd? oh, right, that was the day after the donald trump endorsement. it may just be a coincidence but that endorsement does coincide exactly with mitt romney's poll numbers bein...

Imagine at this point in time. hillary is such a dominant candidate that she has something like 124 endorsements from the house of representatives. it would be an extraordinary lead in the primary and it would be an extraordinary achievement for biden to come from behind and beat that. >> isn't that, however, what senator obama did in 2008 when he first announced in 2007 he had a 16%, lower, even, than where joe biden is? >> it's true, but it wasn't as dominant as it is in 2015-2016. i just think for biden, it's already so late, right? he has to ramp up a campaign from scratch, and it's almost...