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Essentially, he wants to opt out again in this misguided idea that we can be safe here at home. and i think we are going to pay the price for this for basically years to come. this has now become a truly consequential presidency, but not in the way any of us want to see. >> john highlymeilm hayheilmann remind myself that everybody is doing their best all the time, and they have been. but could this be a turning point in their relationship with trump? losing mattis is losing a the significant dose of sanity in the white house. could this be an inflexion point with the republicans as it pertain ...

Him right now. >> i'll move on. before we leave cpac, so there was the straw poll about 3,000 voters rand paul won for the third straight year. scott walker finishing second. does that matter is? >> i don't think it matters a ton. the paul groups are well organized. i think the performance of scott walker means something, but we're very early out. >> i don't think if you look at the last time it was ron paul who won who didn't get the nom thags, but if you look it at the 2012 straw poll, it was mitt romney. so somewhat predictive. but i think this far out, it's not predictive. >> i'll just say...