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Remedy. there has to be something in between so actually tell people you cannot behave this way. it will motivate others to behave better. so rowdy, i think, is just an easy way out for these republicans to not support it. >> i hear you on that point, the idea of defining it. scott, i want to invite you into the conversation because the first thought -- and i'm playing devil's advocate here. the first thought is, well, how are maybe passengers or flight marshals to determine whether this is a passenger who is the word unruly or somebody who could pose a threat to embolden others to use a prete...

We can define it, that was disruptive, then you cannot fly on any airplane because the only remedy we have now is one airline takes them off their list or a criminal remedy. there has to be something in between to actually tell people you cannot behave this way. it will motivate others to behave better. so, rowdy, i think, is just an easy way out for these republicans to -- >> well, juliet, i hear you. on that point, you know, the idea of defining it. that sticks in my mind. scott, i want to hear about the conversation. the first thought -- and i'm playing devil's advocate here. the first thou...