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Extraordinary what you did, because i talked to many people who have been in situations like this and nobody knows how they're going to respond in a situation like that, people think i would rush the gunman but very often people who think they would do that and up, when actually in the situation, for very understandable reasons, running away or trying to find a place to hide, doing something else other than what they thought intellectually they might do. did you ever think you are capable of doing something like this? >> well, we always have that conversation, what if. especially with the situ...

Have the conversations of what if. like, especially with a situation where there's a gunman. you probably had this conversation in your life before. i would think that i would rush the gunman. but if -- prior to this, but if i was to like view my past experiences, it seems like i would have more of a flight response, to run away. but now that i see that in this situation, my character and my, my character and my mentality is totally different. >> yeah. it's heroic. >> people have called me a hero all day. i know the responsibility of that day. people have been trying to look toward me for a me...

Presence in everyday life. >> it is that flight response. you move away. the danger there love to get you loan loves to get you to believe there is no one there for you in your darkest hour. now what is the one thing god it didn't make us for? aloneness. god shows up in the dark places. god shows up with a difficult spaces of our lives. and when he is at his best is when he reminds us a gay that we walked to the valley of even the shallow and shadow of death he is with estes a present help during times of trouble. >> i recently joined a river of prayer in hope for my friend janet he would suff...

The valley ven in the shadowy of death he is with us, a pre present help during times of trouble. >> never easy to remember that when we're in a -- >> tim, is the president of the american association of christian counselors, their missioned to infuse faith in to minimal health, how many of us like tina disengaged when life gets out of control. >> it is that flight response, you move away. the danger is that hell loves to get you alone. to get you to believe there no one there to for you. in your darkest hour, one thing that god didn't make us for? aloneness, kids are not afraid of the dark, t...

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