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Other side that says it will kill you. jesse: joining me now, herman cain. you wanted to electrocute jaguars and os, olots? >> this whole pushback on the wall, jesse is -- they don't want trump to succeed at fulfilling another campaign promise. the only endangered species is the american citizen being hurt by illegals. that's what this is about. they don't want to fulfill another campaign promise just like you showed earlier. they jumped all over him modifying his position and saying he was a flip-flopper. no, he was listening. he did what you do as a leader.

They assist, what they think is flip-flopper the people who supported him will think of him as flip-flopper forget voted for donald trump aren't watching those shows. >> exactly. >> not watching that. , now i am happy -- right? i -- china manipulator very important all things were true so i am glad that he is you know had -- i don't think evolved i don't think flip-flopped i sympathy met reality comes to meet in you white house every day, you can't get out of it. >> my view he has grown. >> yes. >> not always the way he wanted to grow. >> yes, dna. >> i is in a political -- climate that things...

Kill you. jesse: joining me now, herman cain. you wanted to electrocute jaguars and os, olots? >> this whole pushback on the wall, jesse is -- they don't want trump to succeed at fulfilling another campaign promise. the only endangered species is the american citizen being hurt by illegals. that's what this is about. they don't want to fulfill another campaign promise just like you showed earlier. they jumped all over him modifying his position and saying he was a flip-flopper. no, he was listening. he did what you do as a leader.

If you have to modify it at that point when you have all the information, you are not a flip-flopper. you are a leader. the wall is going to be built. jesse: do you believe paul ryan doesn't want president trump to succeed in building the wall? or do you just think games are being played here? >> i just think games are being played. i don't believe paul ryan doesn't want the wall to be built. there is a lot of speculation. you know that because of what you do. what happens is you get some of the people that are against it and they can take one word and one phrase and speculate that that means ...

They assist, what they think is flip-flopper the people who supported him will think of him as flip-flopper forget voted for donald trump aren't watching those shows. >> exactly. >> not watching that. , now i am happy -- right? i -- china manipulator very important all things were true so i am glad that he is you know had -- i don't think evolved i don't think flip-flopped i sympathy met reality comes to meet in you white house every day, you can't get out of it. >> my view he has grown. >> yes. >> not always the way he wanted to grow. >> yes, dna. >> i is in a political -- climate that things...