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Necessary and substantiated claims. anyone who goes in front of congress with that many qualifiers, as an attorney, we knew something was up with bp. now, dylan, they've indicated, look, we're going to put in more stringent controls over the claims. as i've indicates to clients and partne partners, they say attorney washington what's going on. what's going on is they're going from no to hell no. they're not going to pay the claims. >> one other issue with not paying the claims is the calculation of the environmental damage and really the flow rate as to the amount of oil that's been poring int...

Relief well to go down there 18,000 feet. cement it shut. the government's estimate on that happening is still in august. >> shepard: if they are capturing all the oil in theory, we ought to be able to get an accurate flow rate, right? >> that makes sense. over the past 81 days the government estimates will then put in total three and a half million to 5 million barrels that have spilled into the gulf. but once you have all of this now being capped and contained. going to three surface ships. clearly you will be able to get finite barrels a day that they're collecting. the admiral says there w...

Three weeks since congressman ed markey asked bp to give your group the green light to do this kind of testing to measure the flow rate, to measure the impact overall of the oil on the ecosystem. you've heard nothing from bp is my understanding. why do you think that is? >> i really don't know. i wish they would pick up a phone and just give me a call so i can walk them through the proposal. the experiment is very important, i've gotten very good feedback from scientists within the government and so on. i'm hoping having the full technical proposal for their consideration they'll, too, recogni...

Detailed proposal, 88 pages, $8.4 million to implement. as you guessed it, still nothing. bear in mind, it's 1500ths of a percent that bp earned in the quarter before the spill. it's about 2.5 hundredths of a percent sandra bernstein estimated the spill would cost bp. i spoke about it earlier with dr. ira lifer. dr. leifer, it's been more than three weeks since congressman ed markey asked bp to give your group the green light to do this kind of testing to measure the flow rate, to measure the impact overall of the oil on the ecosystem. you've heard nothing from bp is my understanding.

Percent sandra bernstein estimated the spill would cost bp. you can decide for yourself whether that's a small cost for this company to pay. i spoke about it earlier with dr. ira leifer. dr. leifer, it's been more than three weeks since congressman ed markey asked bp to give your group the green light to do this kind of testing to measure the flow rate, to measure the impact overall of the oil on the ecosystem. there's a huge list of things you're trying to study and yet you've heard nothing from bp is my understanding. why do you think that is? >> i really don't know. i wish they would pick u...