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You still feel that way? >> i absolutely feel that way. and i think the most important thing is is nuclear like solar and wind, both of which have a bright future, but they're part of power generation. if we're going to deal with what i think is the biggest environmental issue around the world which is climate change, we need nuclear, solar, and wind. i'm not sure i would agree with your assessment that it's -- i think we need both. obviously solar and wind are not reliable sources of power. and notwithstanding this tragedy in japan, nuclear power is usually about the most reliable form of pow...

Damage and may have melted even. and that releases the radioactive material, as you've heard about, iodine, and there's a direct path to the outside. >> all right, victor galinskyi, thank you for the upbeat news. we hope things turn for the better. as nuclear energy expands worldwide, there hasn't been a new plant built in the united states in more than 30 years. our next guest wants to change that. david crane is ceo of nuclear energy. a partner in a new plant is none other than tokyo electric, tepco. not the partner you want right now. full disclosure, david and i were classmates together ...

Coal is what we have to move away from? >> non-clean coal. i think the world needs to work on non-clean coal technologies. other countries will keep burning coal no matter what the united states does. >> the issue will have to make that a conversation -- the economics i don't think work given current -- >> the economics are tough. >> let's talk about the politics of nukes now. given what's happened, put aside science. is it politically plausible there's going to be nuclear power plants, new ones, built in the united states? >> one of the interesting things even since the crisis started in japa...

President has been an ally to the united states. at least to some degree, in counterterrorism measures. what are we hoping for there? >> i mean, this is -- yemen is further along the way. it's certainly not as hot as libya is, but we're seeing embers there. and there's a possibility that president saleh will step down in the short term. he says he doesn't want to because he's worried about who the opposition is. once again we have al qaeda and the arabian peninsula. i think that's what you were referring to there. the fact is that we've had at least three plots over the last 18 months that hav...

Explain why in that list you just gave us, you said wind, solar, and nuclear, how about natural gas? natural gas is also zero emission and is also domestic. why not go heavily toward natural gas? >> well, we are going to go heavily toward natural gas. our company right now is building a couple natural gas plants. left to the -- if you leave the power industry to its own devices right now, all we will build is natural gas plants, and i think one of the great virtues that the american electric system has is that it's fuel diversified. i want to see more natural gas plants but don't want to go to...