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Damage and may have melted even. and that releases the radioactive material, as you've heard about, iodine, and there's a direct path to the outside. >> all right, victor galinskyi, thank you for the upbeat news. we hope things turn for the better. as nuclear energy expands worldwide, there hasn't been a new plant built in the united states in more than 30 years. our next guest wants to change that. david crane is ceo of nuclear energy. a partner in a new plant is none other than tokyo electric, tepco. not the partner you want right now. full disclosure, david and i were classmates together ...

Power plants. >> it's the same issue as everybody knows we need and desperately want a place to store the refuse of the spent fuel rods of nuclear power. yucca mountain hasn't been built, probably never will be built. everybody agrees on the overarching policy, then nobody in my back yard creeps in, nobody wants it. can you name one place in the united states that is putting up its hand saying build a new nuclear power plant here right now? >> oh, yeah. i can tell you exactly. bay city, texas. that's where our plant is. >> they're with you? >> totally with us. i was there on monday. >> can you...

Work, it's going to delay trying to get the cooling pumps back on line. it's another serious setback. >> martin savidge, thank you. if nuclear material is leaking, what are the possible impacts? we go to the former commissioner of the nuclear regulatory commission. welcome back, victor. what do you do when you see these sorts of numbers? >> the numbers are high, all over the place. not only inside the reactors but the numbers on the site for the public doses are -- they're all about 10,000 times too high. and you're getting the material outside the site also. i think they're less sure about th...

Coal is what we have to move away from? >> non-clean coal. i think the world needs to work on non-clean coal technologies. other countries will keep burning coal no matter what the united states does. >> the issue will have to make that a conversation -- the economics i don't think work given current -- >> the economics are tough. >> let's talk about the politics of nukes now. given what's happened, put aside science. is it politically plausible there's going to be nuclear power plants, new ones, built in the united states? >> one of the interesting things even since the crisis started in japa...

Issue. we've got a place that's ripe with islamic fundamentalism, home to al qaeda, and its president has been an ally to the united states. at least to some degree, in counterterrorism measures. what are we hoping for there? >> i mean, this is -- yemen is further alonghe way. it's certainly not as hot as libya is, but we're seeing embers there. and there's a possibility that president saleh will step down in t short term. he says he doesn't's want to because he's worried about who the opposition is. oncegain we have al qaeda and the arabian peninsula. i think that's what you were referring to...