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If nuclear material is leaking, what are the possible impacts? we go to the former commissioner of the nuclear regulatory commission. welcome back, victor. what do you do when you see these sorts of numbers? >> the numbers are high, all over the place. not only inside the reactors but the numbers on the site for the public doses are -- they're all about 10,000 times too high. and you're getting the material outside the site also. i think they're less sure about the conclusion about the reactor whether it meant that there was a crack in the reactor or break in the -- in the reactor itself. they...

Built, probably never will be built. everybody agrees on the overarching policy, then not in my back yard creeps in, nobody wants it. can you name one place in the united states that is putting up its hand saying build a new nuclear power plant here right now? >> oh, yeah. i can tell you exactly. bay city, texas. that's where our plant is. >> they're with you? >> totally with us. i was there on monday. >> can you do it without federal loan guarantees to cover this enormous downside financial risk that might eventually in the event of disaster? >> you can not being nuclear power plants without ...

Case with charles taylor. and -- >> david? >> and i think thas possible. yes? >> let me play devil's advocate for a moment. want to push you. some are saying that the prospect of having the realty of an icc case hanging over gadhafi's head in fact cituts o exit avenues. in other words, he can't leave, he can't find refuge anyplace else in the world because he knows th the icc will track him down and try him, and wouldn't it be bettero let him find some remote island someere in the world and let him go there upand let him be r of him? is that a concern? >> i don't think that's an option a nymor...

Case with charles taylor. and -- >> david? >> and i think that's possible. yes? >> let me play devil's advocate for a moment. i want to push you. some are saying that the prospect of having the realty of an icc case hanging over gadhafi's head in fact cuts off exit avenues. in other words, he can't leave, he can't find refuge anyplace else in the world because he knows that the icc will track him down and try him, and wouldn't it be better to let him find some remote island somewhere in the world and let him go there and let him be rid of him? is that a concern? >> i don't think that's an opti...