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>> so, i'll never limit the realm of possibility as a prisoner of hope, but let's be clear. the same actor is on the stage right now have denied time and time again what the majority of their own constituents want, what the majority of the republican party wants. there is overwhelming agreement among gun owners to say we should not live in a country where someone who is guilty of spousal abuse can then go out and buy a weapon. on the terrorist no fly list and go buy a weapon. we have a poor system right now. but again, nothing has changed. kids shot on their desks, shot in a night club, nothin...

Going to do what doesn't make political sense especially when the country can't even come together and say, hey, maybe we shouldn't allow people on the no fly list not to buy guns. we can't close loopholes like the one in charleston. because our system is imperfect, people like him fall through the cracks. until we can figure out how to come together as a country, it's hard to say the solution isn't going to be pressuring retailers into selling less guns. they're always going to be available, it has to come from people coming together and getting their lawmakers and the president to say, this ...

Is there anything he can do in your mind that would at least begin a healing process here? >> so chuck, it's not that he doesn't have the credibility. please understand what i'm saying. i'm saying the president is contributing to what's going on now. he's sewing seeds of hatred. what can he do are two things that must be done. one is we need to deal with this issue of guns in our community. ease of access. the fact you can be on the terrorist no fly list and fail trunk full of weapons at gun store from a casual seller. we have a uniquely american problem because of the uniquely american phenom...

Security officials greeting her at jfk or wherever? >> it's a absolutely legitimate concern. it may place her on the no fly list or in jail or in many things. but it doesn't strip her of citizenship. be very careful what you ask for. because the next administration or administration after might not like your words. might say you're dangerous. might say when you're overseas i don't like what he said or how he criticized -- >> neil: it's different saying the words you said and being married to a soldier for isis. that's different. >> i don't like that you married someone in the family of a gover...

>> in 2011 she was severely wounded when she was shot in the head by a mentally ill man. she was ebeing a congresswoman and the constituents for being the congresswoman. and since then mark and gabby have advocated for stronger gun safety legislations and prohibiting those from the no fly list from buying a gun. probably go head-to-head with martha mcsally who was appointed aft losing her senate race. isn't that amazing? someone sitting there that lost. i'm joined by robin kelly, cochair of the gun safety, actually gun violence prevention task force. and the arizona republic.