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And co-host of the prosecuting donald trump podcast and of course with his federal former prosecutor barbara mcquade. andrew weissmann first let me start with you. we are on high alert at all times, every time i get upping on my phone i'm convinced this is it and it's go time for a potential doj indictment. what do you think is happening behind closed doors over there at the special counsel's office? how are we to read activities or lack thereof of the last two days? >> so it wasn't that long ago that i was on the inside of this looking out and i have to say that now that i'm on the outside it...

Is happening right now behind closed doors at the white house. what exactly are they thinking about as they get ready for this? >> well, campbell, number one, they're thinking about is confirmability. you want to send up a nomination to get confirmed. so you can talk about all sorts of other attributes. but the bottom line is confirmability. you know, the white house always has a list in the counsel's office, a short list so to speak. there are a lot of people who call and make recommendations. it becomes a longer list. but the white house really has two, three, four names that they are vettin...