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The european union doesn't want to see a no fly zone established. despite zelenskyy the president of ukraine pleading with the west to do something. either establish that no fly zone or give them additional fighter jets so they can fight the russians in the air. russians have a superior air farce. they have more planes. out numbering ukrainians in that respect. despite the pleas, however, it doesn't seem likely that the nato will take that step and implement the no fly zone. that would put them directly in conflict with the russians. >> yeah. no fly zone you better be ready to shoot down russi...

I'm sure that he's going to use the opportunity to call upon congress to do even more . he has understood the power of communications and it is an additional tool in his arsenal as he tries to fight off russia . we expect zelenskyy to pressure congress to transfer migss to make the case foror a no fly zone. lawmakers say they are ready to help but a no fly zone is a no go zone despite lawmakers saying they are behind ukraine. they are bute only to a point. >> my guess is that everything s going to request is something we ought to be doing. and so my individual response to that would be yes, he...

>> he continued by saying, if we will fall, you will fall. ukrainian president zelenskyy, speaking from an undisclosed location and keith tonight, in a separate speech, and angry zelenskyy, blasted nato for not instituting a no fly zone over his country. >> speaking today, and brussels, u.s. secretary of state, anthony blinken, acknowledging that the suffering in ukraine is likely to get a lot worse, before it gets better. once again, batting down the idea of a nato imposed no fly zone. >> the only way to, actually,

Than military reason. it's much more the consequences. a while ago, i've been involved in policing no-fly zones. and the critical issue is, you have to enforce -- but that means there's not just threatening, and sometimes shutting down opposition aircraft. it means targeting air defense systems that are trying to stop you operating in the no fly zone. in this context, it would mean we would have to be willing to attack russian, perhaps belarusian forces, not just in ukraine but perhaps in belarus and perhaps in russia. so, that risk of escalation, significant escalation, and quite clear path t...

I think will speak up and quite frankly stand up to putin? brett bruen, thank you so much. it's great to talk to you, sir, and to get your insights and to be able to tap into your long experience as a diplomat. brett, thank you . andrei, that it really is is a very important question, i think. does this end with some kind of peace deal or does it on terms of a bigger picture? does this really only end with the removal by the russian people of vladimir putin? and the other good point that made jonathan and tell me if you disagree is the fact that , you know, maybe it's not just about the planes...