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Extraordinary amount of bad judgment, it's kind of like they lie about every contact they've ever had with russians and then you find out later that they met with russians and you wonder, why do they keep lying about things or obstructing on things that really have reasonable explanations if they would come forward in the beginning? >> i have the same question, joe. it's as if they feel one breach of the dam and the entire inundation will come in on top of them. you have to choose when to fight your fights if you're in the situation the white house is in. they're facing months of investigation...

Is probably right here? that these cases will face pretty strict scrutiny by the u.s. supreme court? >> there's no question we see a real continuation of what was happening under the obama administration, you know. if you're against the president, any president, on a particular policy, you go find a judge in a friendly state. if you're a republican you go to texas, democrat, you go to california. you've got a case to make. so what you see is the boundaries of executive power being tessed here, first under president obama, now under president trump. you're right. it's going to go to supreme cou...

Those things. we can easily figure that out, how did he get a security clearance. >> peter baker, that's the question, how did he gets a security clearance. the second, obviously trump administration saw something wrong with this guy and let hill go. why did we have sean spicer dragging his feet on full disclosure when they knew this guy was bad news. >> they fired him. >> got rid of him. >> fired him after he was national security adviser for 24 days because he told vice president and other people in the white house that his conversation with russia's ambassador didn't involve the question of...

To document every call that he made. every document that's asked for, my understanding he got them. >> how about the calls he was making during a transition on behalf of future president trump. aren't those things you should have responsibility and obligation to provide if you can? >> the question is if you can. when you ask for every call -- that's a pretty -- to ask for every call or contact that a national security adviser made is pretty outlandish, if you will. >> i listened to mr. spicer today talk about claiming that they don't have documents. i was very upset just listening to that beca...

Basically to run a federal program is the ruling by supreme court in president obama's health care case. remember, it upheld health care program but one of the elements of that ruling said it cannot force states to extend medicate the way president obama wanted them to. in effect, president trump is now upended on the same principle that upended president obama on his health care program. >> i'm sorry, just going to say the argument from this judge is the president of the united states does not have the power of the purse. he can't say in an executive order we're going to pull back federal fun...