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Investigation would soon be winding down. However, there are signs to the contrary. Axios is reporting that, quote, members of Robert Muellers team are reaching out to former Republican National Committee Staff who were familiar with the digital campaign. The goal is to determine if the joint effort was related to the activities of russian trolls and bots aimed at affecting the american electorate. Ty cobb said all of the interviews with the special team are over. However, former colleague said i would be shocked if he was done with the inner circle. All of these indictments, guilty pleas and ...

Interviews seem to be coming towards an end. but i much point out, a later end than trump's lawyers suggested. we don't know because there's a counter intelligence dimension that we don't have enough visibility into. >> shepard: there's this russian meddling part. there's a collusion part that presumably we don't know much about and a money laundering part. yes? >> yes. when i talked to ty cobb about this late last year, he said our part of the investigation, the white house part, that will be done by the end of january. of course, that's not true. but what he said to me, he said if you put as...

>> well, you have to separate ty cobb, you know, the legal team from the people inside the white house who really know nothing and they're just listening to the legal team with varying degrees of skepticism and you have people outside many of whom are more pessimistic. i spoke to ty cobb and the way he laid it out was he said, yeah, the investigation will continue. he uses the word silos. he says there are two silos, the flynn silo and the manafort silo. they will continue. the white house, that will all be wrapped up and he's moved the time line. he initially said thanksgiving and the end of ...