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Just because something is inevitable or even predicted, we've long known, for example, that things were headed towards some sort of a confrontation between jim mattis the defense secretary and president trump that still manages to be shocking and surprising in the way it played out, and i do think when you see the president backed into a corner, he has escalated his behavior already in a way that does make me quite anxious when i think about what kinds of dysfunction we might see playing out in 2019. >> you know what, david, susan brings up a good point. i think the cohen sentencing was the en...

Way it played out, and i do think when you see the president backed into a corner, he has escalated his behavior already in a way that does make me quite anxious when i think about what kinds of dysfunction we might see playing out in 2019. >> you know what, david, susan brings up a good point. i think the cohen sentencing was the end of last week, right, and then there was some fallout the beginning of this week. and the flynn thing was the beginning of this week. she's right because even by the standards of the trump presidency, this week has been bonkers. and i sense that more and more peop...

My voice. >> nobody sounds like it's their own voice but to me it sounded just like you. >> really? 30 years? >> and if it was you, it was a funny thing to do to call a guy and -- >> over the years i used aliases. >> what names did you use? >> i used the name baron, the name of my son. i made a very good deal using his name. >>. >> welcome back to both of you. jeff, first to you, so we're all on the same page moving forward in the conversation, when you hear that voice john baron, is that donald trump? >> i'm not going to say it is. it certainly sounds that it could be him but i don't have any...

Saying. if our lawmakers spent even a small amount of time with the families and people directly impacted, or vicariously impacted, they would have a different response and it appears that corporate america and the people and the kids have had enough and so politics are not -- we're all moving forward with having a safer community. >> i just want to close the conversation with asking about your dad. how old were you when you lost him? >> i was 24. my sister was 23 when he died. >> just tell me about him? >> he was amazing. he dedicated his life to students. he dedicated everything he had to co...

Trump told comey the hooker from the dossier total bunk, nonsense but that putin told him we have some of the most beautiful hookers in the world. what does that tell sfrurts. >> -- prosecutors? >> what it told prosecutors was what he could be compromised. when trump was denying it, comey said it was verified by all of the intelligence agencies. emergency this conversation, what president trump wanted to hear was, hey, i got you covered, the flynn thing, don't worry about it, the dossier, whatever. but three intelligence agencies confirmed very salacious details of that dossier. when it was ve...