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>> i don't want to ever give anybody an excuse for doing something like not getting vaccinated, but the reasons do harken to someone who has, you know, been told that they're a dumb hillbilly all their life by the rest of the country, and that is not -- that's not an excuse but it's part of the reason. i don't know that we're oppressed or disenfranchised i don't know if we even deserve to feel that way here, but we are in a flyover state. in a social situation where peer pressure is so hard we've had a lot of trouble to try to get people vaccinate. to break out of that peer group is hard for p...

Me right now, it doesn't matter if i take a vaccine or not. people say you ought to get the shot. but that's just the way i look at things. >> i don't want to ever give anybody an excuse for doing something like not getting vaccinated. but the reasons do hearken to somebody who was told there's dumb hillbilly their whole life. it's not an excuse, but it's part of the reason. i don't know if we are opp oppressed, but we are a flyover state. in a social situation where peer pressure is so hard, we've had a lot of trouble to get people vaks vaccinated.

Wants me right now, it doesn't matter if i take a vaccine or i don't. i know a lot of people say well, he gave you common sense and you ought to go get the shot, but let's just, you know, just the way i look at things. >> i don't want to ever give anybody an excuse for doing something like not getting vaccinated, but the reasons do harken to someone who has, you know, been told they're a dumb hill billy all their life by the rest of the country. that is not an excuse but part of the reason. i don't know that we're oppressed or disenfranchised, i don't know if we deserve to feel that way here b...

If you're unwilling to get vaccinated and you're spreading this virus, it fills up hospitals and takes a bed away for people who are a heart attack or stroke or have another need. it can cause death in ways that aren't directly related to covid. then my other piece is about the economic resurgence. we have an economy on fire in kentucky. 1800 new jobs in the last two weeks. the only thing that's going to keep us from reaching a bigger potential than i ever knew was possible is if we can't combat this variant. masks are not a big thing to ask people to do. to save one another's lives or to ulti...

Same. >> laura: would trump have gotten... elected? >> absolutely. it would've been a national popular vote, she would've campaigned around the entire country. president trump only campaign in 13 states. you expect -- >> laura: why would anyone campaign in iowa or new hampshire under a national popular vote? the top four most populous states in the country are 36 present of the population. >> so you believe -- what about the top 50 cities in the country? >> laura: almost all of them -- >> the top 50 make up what percentage of the national popular vote? >> laura: it doesn't matter -- >> the top...