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>> absolutely. it would've been a national popular vote, she would've campaigned around the entire country. president trump only campaign in 13 b states. you expect -- >> laura: why would anyone campaign in iowa or new hampshire under a national popular vote? the top four most populous states in the country are 36 present of the population. >> so you believe -- what about the top 50 cities in the country? >> laura: almost all of them -- >> the top 50 make up what percentage of the national popular vote? m>> laura: it doesn't matter -- >> the top -- >> laura: there is a limited amount of time. ...

Always wins. why then does mitch mcconnell defend an electoral system where the presidential candidate with the most votes doesn't win? a system that makes kentucky a flyover state? half the states needed already support a national popular vote. tell mitch to join them and let our votes really count. >> well, that's the pitch from a group called make every vote count, but there's a catch, not all states have to agree before the change would be made. instead of a constitutional amendment, the plan would go into effect once it is enacted by enough states whose combined electoral votes hit 270 or...

Strengthen law enforcements around this issue? >> out here in arizona our governor has been very progressive on this. we're in the midst of passing legislation that will not only increase penalties but make sure traffickers are put away for a long time. our attempt is to make arizona a flyover state. we want everyone to have a family, friendly event and keep our children safe. there's a lot to be done. we've put up billboards and have the 800 number up. we're attempting to make sure every driver, cab driver, bus driver, everybody understands what's going on and are educated, our airport people...

Individuals, and that's a swing state. it went to senator obama then last time by some 750,000 votes. >> as long as you are talking about president obama, could huntsman be doing the same thing many people have accrued president obama of doing, that's blaming the american people for your shortcomings as a candidate? >> that's a great point. and part of what is coming out in in the pieces we are reading is there there is a feeling he is treating iowa as a flyover state. you go to the coasts, a west coast and east coast elitest. >> and you don't have to live in iowa to feel that way. everyone is...