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There's also a theory, chris, that the impeachment, when it goes forward, with freeze the primary process. i'm not exactly sure that that is the case because, again, there are plenty of ways that you can get your message out. >> the date of the vote is the date of the vote is the date of the vote. i don't know. is the premise of that that joe biden stops campaigning out of respect for the impeachment process? >> no. >> no. so there is a bigger picture question which is, are democrats ceding the time they need to make an affirmative case about why one of them needs to be in the white house the ...

To impeach a president. that is a very sober occasion. she said she's looking at thoughtfully and prayerfully. but this is not something anybody wants to do. it is, however, stephanie engli grisham in the white house said this is an unconstitutional process. there is nothing more constitutional than the process of impeachment. it's inherent in what's in the constitution. and our nation was structured is that you have checks and balances on power. this is one of the checks and balances we have. >> stephanie grisham is not alone in that sentiment. here is how republican leaders in the house reac...

Even with crowd count, he says something that is totally not factual. he has a following that even though it's factually incorrect, they continue to follow him. so he's empowered to say things that's not true. >> how do you beat that? how do you over come that? >> we have to stay truthful. we have to continue. one of the things we're saying that was a vote for impeachment, it was a vote for transparency. it was a vote that even the republicans -- my republican colleagues were saying we shouldn't continue this, this should be out in the public, they should have access to this information includ...

Course. >> you were very popular, steve. >> thank you for that, chris. >> you can look at it two ways. donald trump has been very effective at seizing a narrative. the fact is when the american eyes are glued to this process, and all the facts come to light, then it's the democrats who really own that narrative. the more people hear about what has happened, the more they will be educated and exposed to the facts. i'll just say one other thing on this. 35% of the electorate no matter what this impeachment proves, they're going to stick with donald trump. 45% of the american electorate, no matte...

Districts, trying to explain their vote, trying to explain why they feel it's important to move forward. they could be aided next week by release of transcripts only solve of these earlier depositions. adam schiff has said in interviews those could come out as early as next week. the public hearings could start perhaps as early as a week after that. nothing in congress happens as quickly as we expect to it. that's usually the rule. >> kelly, as we've seen, the president has been his own biggest defender throughout this process. now there's a new interview with "the washington examiner" taking ...