Terrible, horrible. he seems to make it like almost this is everything. i don't know how to describe it. he wants the whole foreign policy of the united states, the whole domestic policies, our entire leadership to be depend ant on one question, terrorism. it should the only thing that decides what we do in this country for the rest our future. that's what he wants. >> i don't know that he would actually dispute that. i mean, we've interviewed him a couple of times over the last year and a half, and he has said repeatedly and said it sunday that he thinks the biggest issue bar none is -- is th...