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But who and how? that is a matter of debate. you saw me with john kennedy, he's an honest broker, maybe as honest asny have. very hard for him to call out the president. and call out what should be so obvious. who will make the changes? how are these changes going to happen. let's bring in bakari sellers and david. was your take similar to the one i had at the top of the show, the president had an opportunity to say look, this is on me, this is on everybody else, i can be better, you can be better. and he did not take that opportunity. >> well, i disagree with you on two points, chris. the fir...

The president. who will make the changes? how are these changes going to happen. let's bring in bakari sellers and david. was your take similar to the one i had at the top of the show, the president had an opportunity to say look, this is on me, this is on everybody else, i can be better, you can be better. and he did not take that opportunity. >> well, i disagree with you on two points, chris. the first is that i don't have that same level of expectation of the president of the united states, he's been the same man who we thought he was from the beginning. to expect him to display that level ...

Wrangle more votes towards the republican party. but is rand paul a true economic crusader like detroit needs? >> he's not the crusader that detroit needs right now. if you cut away from a lot of the flash, what you're looking at here is a good old trickle down economics. the idea is if you cut taxes for those at the top of the scale, you're going to generate enough economic activity to provide employment opportunities for everybody else. that has not worked on a national scale, and it's going to be particularly i think fool hearted in a place like detroit which actually needs support. not per...