doesn t exist any more. i m hopeful that the fact that you see for instance in that washington post poll that someone like nikki haley has seen a lot more consideration from republican voters and getting a lot of second looks. that is a good sign. but at the same time, you have to wonder, donald trump wasn t up there on the stage, how different does this look when the field narrows if trump ever decides to hop back on the stage, i expect a very different conversation. and if i could try to play an intellectual game and link one of your earlier segments, you have the kings on, the march on washington, a irning foot note is both john lewis and doctor king didn t give the speech they wanted to give because they feared it would alienate the vast middle so they tempered themselves and you saw republicans refuse to do that in most cases. and so ultimately, the goal is, yes, to win a primary but it is to persuade the majority of americans and i think this debate watched by a lot of americ
charges each of which is very serious and we know from the indictment they were late to our nuclear programs, our allies and our retaliatory abilities. now the other six charges and in nauta s case, he had a seventh charge because he lied to the fbi. that goes to obstruction and the crux is that donald trump lied to doj, lied to the grand jury through his lawyers, by misleading his lawyers by hiding boxes from his lawyers caused his lawyers to lie to those entities. the obstruction charges should not be a foot note. this goes to the heart of our criminal justice process. to the integrity of what we do. when you try to mess with the rules of game, that is serious. whatever is happening in that cafe, this is what this case is about. could i ask you another question. yes. that is the potential jury pool. i was thinking maybe i ve been hanging out with you,
mark. what you have with john durham, it s a big fat nothing. we spend a lot of money as an american government on a report that is essentially proves no wrongdoing. it s a complete dud. once again, another dud by john durham. a week from now we ll hardly remember the name durham. it will be barely a foot note in history. trace: the staggering thing about me, you have msnbc and cnn bringing out the liars to knock down the short. peter schiff, strzok, mccabe, wiseman. all of these people in the report and yet here they are knocking it down. the fbi s reputation lies in tatters. the media pushes these lies for three years and now that the report has come out, they re
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