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System. they pour it in. and because they do that, you're not paying for those tariffs. china is paying for those tariffs. >> there is an argument to be had here, and we might have it. but today the president blinked. his u.s. trade representatives released a statement on trump's next round of planned tariffs on chinese goods saying, quote, it was determined that the tariffs should be delayed to september 15th for certain articles. products in this group include, for example, cell phones, laptop computer, video game consoles, certain toys, computer monitors, and certain items of foot ware and ...

His u.s. trade representatives released a statement on trump's next round of planned tariffs on chinese goods saying, quote, it was determined that the tariffs should be delayed to september 15th for certain articles. products in this group include, for example, cell phones, laptop computer, video game consoles, certain toys, computer monitors, and certain items of foot ware and clothing. now why would trump wait to level tariffs on goods like cell phones, laptops, video game consoles, toy, computer monitors, and shoes until the middle of december? i think we may have given it away in the grap...

>> and foot ware makes a cameo appearance. i'll say that to the audience. let me ask you about this. the word of the moment as i keep saying is transactional. it's meant to describe donald trump's approach to presidential politics. not an ideolog. not really a republican but a new york democrat. how much interaction have you had with him in new york over the years the way people do and how do you view the chuck and nancy talks on the left? >> my interaction has been limited but i have watched him very closely for a long time. it seems i am one of those who was extremely surprised when the chuc...

Have donald trump talking to a -- an older woman during the hurricane in texas and having a wonderful kind of human equal conversation with her. sort of another side of him and melania trump is part of it. it was just kind of fun to say what if. >> and foot ware makes a cameo appearance. i'll say that to the audience. let me ask you about this. the word of the moment as i keep saying is transactional. it's meant to describe donald trump's approach to presidential politics. not an ideolog. not really a republican but a new york democrat. how much interaction have you had with him in new york ov...

And also take history very serious ly >> are you satisfied that you are writing -- are you comparing this fantasy to names we have known in our recent history who who have just occupied the white house? >> well, i don't compare the current occupant with previous occupants, but i talk specifically about some public figures. mrs. clinton and her recent book, her momoir and approaches she might have taken in it and i have donald trump talking to a -- an older woman during the hurricane in texas and having a wonderful kind of human equal conversation with her. sort of another side of him and melan...