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They know yet. clearly the president and in the case of benghazi, the secretary of state. that's the way life works. but what bothers me about it is that two things really concern me, one, you think of a manager, a leader. when something like that happens, you call people in, you sit them down and you let them know that you intend to find ground truth fast. and he seems not to have done that. the other thing that's worrisome is, as they say, truth leaves on horseback and returns on foot. what's happening to the president is incrementally trust is being eroded because of the different messages ...

Nothing in the code or nothing in any supreme court decision that says the irs should target americans for their beliefs. >> agreed. >> we still don't know who directed this and we're trying to move forward in a bipartisan way to get answers. for two years we've been seeking answers and didn't get them. >> it's interesting how bureaucracies operate. do they take cues from the president? i use the abu ghraib example. do you think that's a fair criticism here? >> i think you have to step back and say what's the theory of governing here? and the theory is, it seems, oh, there are investigations o...

>> you are the one of the leading republicans in america. would you call on republicans who talk about impeaching the president or who talk about this as an nixonian style coverup with regard to benghazi, would you like them to stop it? >> what i think we ought to do is complete the investigation and find out what exactly happened. and i think we have a sense of what happened. . we know there was inadequate security, we know an american ambassador and three other brave americans got killed, and we know the administration kind of made up a tale here in order to make it seem like it wasn't a ter...

Security leaks that endanger americans around the world are a serious matter. >> including this one? >> any time you're leaking national security information, if it endangers americans around the world, eight serious matter. >> i think it's clear what you're saying. i want to move on to benghazi and questions republicans have been asking about this. if you look at this as objectively as you can, it appears to be an episode on the failure of the administration to adequately secure an overseas outpost, diplomatic compound at a time of war when we have been involved in getting rid of gadhafi in l...

>> what i'm saying is national security leaks that endanger americans around the world are a serious matter. >> including this one? >> any time you're leaking national security information, if it endangers americans around the world, eight serious matter. >> i think it's clear what you're saying. i want to move on to benghazi and questions republicans have been asking about this. if you look at this as objectively as you can, it appears to be an episode on the failure of the administration to adequately secure an overseas outpost, diplomatic compound at a time of war when we have been involved...