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Charges have come down were, quote, for finality. it s almost as if they re looking to somehow have the ability to have the services in place that the criminal justice system is going to allow for this child to get the treatment that they need. what s very interesting here is that in most countries the minimum age that you can be charged with a crime 14. in massachusetts the minimum age is 12. so illinois was actually the first state to start a juvenile court, and so it s a really interesting commentary that now they re charging a 9-year-old with murder when in most states you d have to be at least 12 to be charged with such a crime. so it shows there s definitely been a departure for that state in how they treat juveniles. i think there s just been a lot of confusion about how to handle this tragedy. arthel: david, hang on, i m going to get you in there, but first i want to read this quote9 from the president of juvenile justice initiative which advocates for less reliance on incarcer ....