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There's plenty of raw politics to toss around. joining me from the convention, john avalon, columnist for the dailybeast.com. author of "wing nuts." eric erickson, editor and chief for redstate.com. guys, thanks for being on. i want to go over with you a couple of, you know, it's a leaderless movement and a lot of the members of the tea party like to say that. there's not one leader of the movement but there are people who are popular within the movement. let's talk about a couple of them. tom tancredo who had the opening night speech. >> yeah, i mean, one man's red meat is another man's raw s...

To conventional wisdom here. what's interesting is tancredo hasn't been that much a factor in tea parties to date. he's known primarily as an anti-illegal immigrant activist. that hasn't been a force animating the tea party so far this year. >> exact michele bachmann? relatively new to national politics but certainly very popular. >> yeah. i mean, michele bachmann really has turned herself into an icon for the tea party movement. and the criticism that came on her, made her if anything more beloved by the base. she's had a whole string of howlers this year, statements about wondering whether -...