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Biggest concern he had was the corruption of the senior leaders that had all been trained in the old soviet union. he said once we disavowed those individuals and they left we would have a much stronger army. >> when it comes to intent, putin knows as well, as do you, invading is one thing, holding territory among a hostile population is quite another. in that sense, what do you think putin is calculating, weighing up, as he thinks about invasion? >> he's not calculating very well, michael, from a force perspective standpoint. there have been various studies talking about troop relationships. ...

And starting in about the 2008 time frame, they really got serious. there was a colonel general who was the chief of the land forces. and he put a great deal of effort into turning his military into a professional force. but he told me one time when we were having a session the biggest concern he had was the corruption of the senior leaders that had all been trained in the old soviet union. he said once we disavowed those individuals and they left we would have a much stronger army. >> when it comes to intent putin knows well as do you i guess that invading is one thing. holding territory amid...