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Distinguish it from nonforceable rape, the kind of rape women secretly want and like? republicans upon taking control of the house in their third bill, sought to redefine rape because the old definition of rape apparently included too many things that women wanted to be protected from when we all know they were the kind of rape that are really no big deal. paul ryan, the republican vice presidential nominee, was an original cosponsor of the bill to redefine rape. to make it harder on rape victims who wanted to get an abortion. the bill eventually dropped the redefining rape language, but paul ...

Counted on that being kind of quietly ignored in national politics. noticed by the activists to whom they answer but not noticed by any of us. do you think they'll still take the paul ryan/todd akin position on rape victims in the national platform again this year or do you think now that's going to have to change? bob mcdonnell is the one who decides. joining us now is frank rich, writer at large for new york magazine and former columnist for the "new york times." it is great it see you. thank you for being here. >> great to be here, rachel. >> it's all in bob mcdonnell's hands. >> as long as...

Platform. they will have the language in the platform that bans abortion in the case of rape. you hope they have todd akin to kick around in the race. >> that bill would redefine rape. they call it forceable rape. i wonder, shira, what is the likelihood this is going to stick or hurt paul ryan? >> i don't know it will hurt paul ryan that much in the long term. a lot of republican members signed on to the bill you just mentioned. >> only one is running for vice president. >> that is absolutely a good point. very true. i think when people think of paul ryan, they think of his budget. it is no se...

Believes that rape and incest victims should be forced by the state to give birth against their will. >> in new hampshire, in georgia, in indiana, in virginia, in idaho, south carolina, in iowa, republicans in all of those states in the past couple years have moved to overtly go after rape victims and incest victims and anti-abortion laws removing protections they used to have in law. in the house of representatives, federally, when republicans voted on a new abortion ban for washington, d.c. recently it, of course, had no exceptions for rape victims or incest victims. hr-3, the third bill int...

Ticket? now that todd akin has become the latest republican politician to articulate the pseudo scientific thinking behind this laund thinking strand of republican politics, now that there's a full scale freakout about his viability and his insanely out there politics on the issue and how the republican party can afford to keep a guy like that on the ballot in that important race, once again, you have to ask why the freakout about todd akin when the republican party has picked somebody with the exact same track record, with the exact same policy record, his co sponsor on all of the bills to be...