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and 51 people dead in the back of the truck in sweltering heat and it happened in the united states of america. let's go "outfront." i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, a transformative moment in what was some of the most explosive moment in the january 6th hearing to see date. cassidy hutchinson, former top aide to trump's chief of staff mark meadows laid bare just how much trump wanted the crowd to march to the capitol, knowing they were armed, knowing his rally could turn violent. here she is talking about the warning from top white house aide tony ornato. >> i remember mr. orna...

In the future and possibly locked up and my peption gone and it will be a disaster. i had the fore sight not to join the force for this reason is i went to this business whatever you want to call it. >> it is not really a business. it is a love or a passion. mike, is it a problem that people don't use social network to show good things? good things are boring. you want to show a cop doing something nice, that's boring. if you show a cop hitting somebody that's funny. the world is watching. >> twitter is all about snarky. that's what populates that medium for the most part. i just don't underst...

Leno's -- >> well, it was for leno's benefit. he can use it for tomorrow. >> it must have been a longtime ago. >> i actually have that in my original note. it tells you how long ago that was. >> dana, you said mayor bloomburg could have stopped this after a couple days saying to the protesters, you are in a private park, move on. wouldn't the owners of the park have to ask him to do that since it is -- >> right, well yeah i guess. i think if the mayor had any fore sight he would have done it. what do you think rudy guiliani would have done? >> my point is if it is a private park, if john and m...

Benefit. he can use it for tomorrow. >> it must have been a longtime ago. >> i actually have that in my original note. it tells you how long ago that was. >> dana, you said mayor bloomburg could have stopped this after a couple days saying to the protesters, you are in a private park, move on. wouldn't the owners of the park have to ask him to do that since it is -- >> right, well yeah i guess. i think if the mayor had any fore sight he would have done it. what do you think rudy guiliani would have done? >> my point is if it is a private park, if john and maria own that park, which i'm assumin...

In a post 9/11 world, are you kidding me? >> well let's look at the fore sight. they had their top secret stuff in the bunker of the most wanted man on planet earth. that strikes me as an a bad area for such sense stiff. >> he was watching his own image going out to around the world. >> there are threats to the country and i totally 1 hz% -- 100% agree with you. >> just because they are not successful doesn't make it not dangerous. just because they are incompetent it is not a threat. i agree. just because they got lucky and and -- we got lucky we can't let our guard down. >> thank god for pre...