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It raised questions in place like bahrain and saudi arabia as to whether we would stand by our man. and from my point of view, probably unwise. >> but if we hadn't -- if we had kept him there, the argument then was that only fuels the typical anti-american, they always stand by these -- >> fair enough. >> benign dictators. >> fair enough. difficult choices. and that's a legitimate call. mubarak himself was prepared to see he was going. not run again. so we were talking a couple months at that point. and look, what i think you're highlighting, there's no easy choices in these things. the middle...

Support that our partners want and need. >> that said, it's a stark reminder, there is no such thing as a one-size-fits-all approach to the middle east. in libya, america did back anti-government rebels who succeeded in toppling gadhafi, but the situation is far from stable. in syria, the u.s. has taken the opposite approach, hoping international pressure will force president assad to resign. and become like yemen. the next commander in chief will likely have to decide whether an aggressive approach can be effective in preventing a wider and deadlier conflict. cuba, of course, always the poten...

Successful libya. we have done nothing in a year, from october of 2011 to september the 15th, we did almost nothing to deal with the militia problem and help the libyans. >> what's the lesson, though, from libya now, considering the time your people involved in the revolution, not sure who you're working with. what's the lesson for syria -- >> here's the lesson -- >> i'm talking about syria, because a lot of people call forearming syria and the same thing happening in libya. you might help al qaeda. >> the wrong people are being armed. >> that's right. >> provide capacity to those who have the...