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Start small and we can move on to more substantive things. >> molly: it is fascinating to hear you talk about that. potential for new leadership and a new year in 2020. what do you think we get it back to that point? >> i hope that president trump takes a much more proactive role in this and maybe with the guys not pushing back against him -- his instincts have been right almost from the beginning especially in foreign policy issues. i would like to see him take a more proactive you to impose his views until his advisors what they are going to do and not leave it up to them to interpret anythi...

To size this up. we cane also see it's really getting under the president's skin having all of this happen back inl washington while he's here trying to be basically the face of the united states and delve into all of these high-stakes foreign policy issues. and he's been very frustrated withve that. he's made that very clear. heer has spoken to the reporter for more thanas would hours ove the course of yesterday. and he's vented about democrats. he's criticized house intelligence tichairman adam schiff. so, this is something that world leaders ares paying very close attention to. although the...

And i think that, you know, it's truthfully in the united states a lot of people don't necessarily vote on foreign policy issues. it's probably pretty secondary concern for a lot of people. but i do think it's very possible in the united states to talk to people about european security and to talk about the importance of this particular conflict. and with regard to the -- and i think also there's a really widespread awareness of russian intervention in the 2016 election. so people are listening to this or understanding this or certainly learning a lot more about ukraine. it's become a central ...

>> the government of turkey and for my administration that they would be stopping combat, and their offensive in syria, and making the cease-fire permanent. and it will indeed be permanent. however, you would also define the word permanent in that part of the world as somewhat questionable. we all understand that. but i do believe that it will be permanent. i have therefore instructed the secretary of the treasury to lift all sanctions imposed on october 14th. we reserve the right to reagan'g imposed crippling sanctions. >> bret: making a statement about what he called a permanent cease-fire. ...

Nonetheless, the president made no comment about it. but this is the day before or day after new talks were just announced. >> what are you suggesting? the impeachment is all consuming? >> it is all consuming. foreign leaders are wary of us because they don't think there are enough brain cells on the problem. state department's now preoccupied with a subpoena and there is also far less, i think, a process than there should be on foreign policy issues. and i worry that we don't have the -- >> it's not just by the way the phone call with the ukrainian president in which we see in the transcript ...