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Iran is a member of that, that red line would really start with guarantying surveillance and escort of certain vessels but we need britain and others to make it happen. heather: when you say get on board, what do they need to do to help the situation? >> they have to decide that they want to take the task escorting in some cases their own ships, britain, france and germany has had important with brexit going on, not easy thing to arrange, britain needs to show that they can protect their own ships and they need to start working with the u.s., i think in this case we have seen this is not somet...

Modest for this summit. this is a very difficult problem set, an entractable foreign policy problem that's been going on for 70 years. i would like to see progress on road maps or maybe working groups set up. i'd be happy with that as well as jon roberts mentioned, the president's keeping his cards close to his chest on this issue. including relationship building, which the president feels is key to his foreign policy dealing with kim jong-un. >> neil: obviously it's not by accident that they're meeting in hanoi and vietnam. the closeness of the crucial issue to the north korean leader who can...

Whole say it will not stand. >> the number one foreign policy problem for russia was these sanctioning, rig sanctions, right? >> yeah, they wanted to control ukraine, and that led to sanctions. >> this brings me to what is collusion, what is direct, what is circumstantial. we're hearing richard bird, and he doesn't use the word direct evidence, he uses factual evidence of collusion, our wording said direct evidence, explain what that means, tom. >> direct evidence would be let's think of another crime and maybe a simpler crime to understand like a homicide. direct evidence is we have tom winte...

The problem is -- this is the mainstream foreign policy problem of our country. we always think we have to be involved. maybe when there is two evils, assad may be an evil, sunni extremists may be an evil. maybe we shouldn't always have to choose a side and be involved in war. we added to the chaos. millions of people who left, that's on the hands of many americans who said, like hillary clinton, we've got to be in there. we've got to somehow get rid of assad. it should not be the job of america to be replacing regimes around the world. this is what president trump recognized in iraq, that tha...

Extremists fighting against assad. the problem is -- this is the mainstream foreign policy problem of our country. we always think we have to be involved. maybe we shouldn't always have to choose a side and be involved in war. we added to the chaos. millions of people who left, that's on the hands of many americans who said, like hillary clinton, we've got to be in there. we've got to somehow get rid of assad. it should not be the job of america to be replacing regimes around the world. this is what president trump recognized in iraq, that that was the biggest foreign policy disaster of the la...