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Four star general and jill colvin, in the trenches for the associated press these days. thank you both very much for coming on. general, just last night, you said of jim mattis, he won't quit. you talked about his service to the marine corps. my question to you is how bad do you think it got to lead general mattis to leave? >> well, i don't think it was syria. i think the bottom line was we've had over the past two years of the trump administration an increasing sense that there is no national security foreign policy process. the branches of the u.s. military, soft power, military power, intel...

It say everyone? >> the red line was a terrible mistake for all the reasons you said. given the facts and circumstances we have in ukraine, what would you do to solve this problem. >> i'd have a strong nato response. >> what does that mean? does that mean sending ships in there? >> you could send ships in there and help ukraine defend themselves more aggressively. i'm not an expert -- if we had a normal foreign policy process we would have the state department, treasury department having meetings and saying, okay, what should we do? we would have meetings with our european allies seeing what w...

The republican party was not pleased. here to talk about all of it, retired four star u.s. army general barry mccaffrey, happens to be former u.s. drug czar and a man with extensive experience around the world. general, if i hired you to give the president the iran brief about the country and about rouhani, what would you tell him? >> well, look, a couple of concerns. first is i've worked for both republican and democratic administrations. i think one of the concerns is that we have a national security foreign policy process, it's not bureaucracy, but it's bringing together the key people in g...

Our language, malign behavior, you heard it here first, and second, that was the secretary of state after the president said he would demand no preconditions. you might remember back when president obama suggested meeting with an iranian leader, the republican party was not pleased. here to talk about all of it, retired four star u.s. army general barry mccaffrey, happens to be former u.s. drug czar and a man with extensive experience around the world. general, if i hired you to give the president the iran brief about the country and about rouhani, what would you tell him? >> well, look, a cou...

You might remember when president obama suggested meeting with an iranian leader the republican party was not pleased. here to talk about all of it, retired four star general mccaffrey, former battlefield commander, happens to be former u.s. drug czar. general, if i hired you to give the president the iran brief about the country and about rouhani what would you tell him? >> a couple of concerns. first is i work for both republican and democratic administrations. i think one of the concerns is that we have a national security foreign policy process. it's not bureaucracy but bringing together t...