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Steeple, and inside are the people. we have people inside the church, faithful church attenders who are now desized. they have loved ones. when the forensics evidence is taken care of, when the crime scene is processed, they will have the grim task of notifying families. but we in the media will have the task of telling the story of those people who lost their lives while worshipping their god. what happens when that takes place from your perspective as a professional dealing with law enforcement and knowing there is the human element. there is still the human element that hurts so deeply. >> ...

If they think that's a government facility that some crazy thing is going on in there, that would not be unusual to have a group like that, of course they're very militant. >> let me bring in someone you're familiar with. clint van zandt. i know you've been listening in on this conversation. where would you begin? >> well, you know, obviously jim's got years of experience investigating and you've got years of experience reporting so let me try to fill in the middle. you know, when we look at some of forensics evidence, anywhere from what pete williams had suggested earlier, that they'll be loo...

Going to change is the forensics evidence, the forensic statements have always been the same and that's not going to change regardless of who does the investigation but i support those outside independent investigations. >> i think aervbedeverybody on the panel does. and you saw it live during our coverage. it was a protester, nabbed by officers in riot gear and pushed into a humvee. tonight he tells me what happened to him. that's next. namaste. stay. taking care of our teeth is one of them. when i brush my teeth, he gets a milk-bone brushing chew. just another way to keep ourselves healthy. ...

Be conducted. >> if we are trying to build relationships and trust with our communities, it is often seen by communities that that is much better to do when you have outside independent investigators looking into the fatalities that may have occurred as a result of one of your officers. but it becomes critically important to, the flip side of that, is this for years police departments have done their own homicide investigations as it relates to fatalities. and they have done a great job as well, too. we are in a very different era of policing today. we are at very different time of policing to...

On a number of items that he brings up. at this point there are a lot of questions that need to be answer ed. people around the country are anxious, too. i believe once all the evidence is in witness statements medical records, an examination and are forensics evidence, statements from officers, i think if we give that city an opportunity under the leadership of their mayor who i've had the opportunity to be acquainted with during the last three months on the task force and i believe between her and commissioner batts they'll get to the bottom of what actually occurred. >> is there any real ex...