Happen to a survivor and then more collapse, or something that could be more devastating and not get a survivor out of there. a lot of hope here. there's a lot of hope, a lot of support. the families are distraught for obvious reasons and i think most of them, the unknown. the unknown is what they're dealing with. we have a problem. we have the building that collapsed, but we don't know why. and we don't know when we're going to get everybody out. all of that is being pushed together and pieced together as we go forward. >> that's right. andy, thank you for joining us. i know you have a lot to...