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Ignorance with the multiplicity of actors and the regional dynamics. having been there and reported from mosul, can you talk a little bit about that dynamic because there are civilians in these cities that were trying to extract isis from. >> 60,000 civilians who have already fled mosul since the attack started about four or five weeks ago, and there is some 1.5 to 1.2 million siblings still left inside the city so all of this is kind of the piece with donald trump's vision of slamming isis and, you know, forget everything else, forget the civilians and forget the politics and that's going to ...

Forget everything else. election is over. you've gone deeply into red territory. the thing that's also happening in arizona, i think, it's a bleed over of what we see in utah. there's a specific problem with mormon voters for donald trump. it's why evan mcmullin could actually win out in utah. arizona has -- it's not anywhere near the size the utah but arizona has a mormon population so it puts her in the game. i think trump is losing ground with mormon voters in arizona and that's making a difference. >> and they vote in huge numbers. >> this is starting to feel like 2008 perhaps? where india...

Sniffer dogs looking for anything that might be suspicious. even those radiation detectors they had at the ready in case of any sort of dirty bomb. but for 3 1/2 million people to line the routes here and have this parade go through and, i mean, forget isis, forget everything else, there weren't any big issues. there weren't even any small issues. no arrests. there were concerns about black lives matter, trying to break into the parade. black lives matter protesters went to macy's last night late and were able to disrupt operations there at macy's. there may have been concern of that here. non...

Just from what's going on with goldman sachs, forget everything else, is not currently in the dodd proposal or the blanche lincoln language. do you think a floor debate will yield it? >> i think it gives a chance for carl levin and i and the other cosponer to make their case. a big piece of that was restored integrity. both to citizens, but they also said lending institutions will be lending institutions. those are institutions that power up our small businesses and families. it's critical to our recovery and people won't put their money into the investment world if they feel they're not getti...

Play, it's a game they're playing inside the white house. >> to jim's point, democrats have been urging this white house, you have been on this program and others urging this white house, forget everything else, focus on jobs, jobs, job, jobs. and then pause and focus on jobs. that's your message to the white house. maybe it doesn't play out in the country as much as it does here in washington. but now you have -- this is welcome to another administration and another woodward book. this is the national security adviser, jim jones, talking about the staff. national security adviser james l. jon...