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One is each one had to alienate their own base. reagan increased taxes. o'neil cut benefits. both of them took heat. same thing with bill. clinton and newt gingrich didn't like each other much. both of them had to cut benefits, cut spending and newt gingrich agreed to raising taxes and balancing the budget. left a trillion dollar surplus in the bank. barack obama has to stand up to the base. i'm in the base. he's got to stand up and alienate us: and boehner has to do the same thing against the tea party. it won't happen unless both sides are willing to stand up. >> final question, lance armstr...

Left a trillion dollar surplus in the bank. barack obama has to stand up to the base. i'm in the base. he's got to stand up and alienate us: and boehner has to do the same thing against the tea party. it won't happen unless both sides are willing to stand up. >> final question, lance armstrong in a similar way for the way they forgave bill clinton. you were part of that forgiveness process, some would argue, for bill clinton. as long as armstrong got that kind of chance, you think? >> a bit of a disclosure. i've had conversations with his attorneys. i think oprah was a good step, but not enoug...

Gingrich agreed to raising taxes and balancing the budget. left a trillion dollar surplus in the bank. barack obama has to stand up to the base. i'm in the base. he's got to stand up and alienate us: and boehner has to do the same thing against the tea party. it won't happen unless both sides are willing to stand up. >> final question, lance armstrong in a similar way for the way they forgave bill clinton. you were part of that forgiveness process, some would argue, for bill clinton. as long as armstrong got that kind of chance, you think? >> a bit of a disclosure. i've had conversations with ...