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To sessions he would publicly attack him if he ran, apparently not deterring sessions. sessions has refrained from publicly criticizing the president despite the president's relentless attacks against his former ag's recusal from the russia probe. >> if i had one do-over it would be i would not have appointed jeff sessions to be attorney general. jeff sessions didn't have a clue. the only reason i gave him the job, because i felt loyalty. he took the job and then he said, i'm going to recuse myself. i said, what kind of a man is this? >> joining me now, ruth marcus, deputy editor of "the washi...

Said, but just one last thought in terms of how this moves forward, the department of justice apparently, the attorney general was behind -- or was supportive of releasing this transcript. >> yeah, i think bill barr is always going to be for transparency, especially coming out of what they did with the whole russia investigation, so i would expect we will see full transparency in bill barr standing for that and really all these investigations. >> martha: just one more time, if there was that question about help, election help or getting information out about joe biden, as a former ag, would th...

To the accused, for bbiforbidde doing anything regarding the mueller report. mr. lewandowski tried to meet with the former ag. when that failed he tried to pass the buck to mr. dearborn, all while telling the president he would follow through on the president's orders. so that is what we want to try to learn more about today. as we learned with special counsel mueller, witness testimony is critical to any investigation. but the white house does not want us or the american people to hear the story in full. late yesterday the white house sent this letter claiming that mr. lewandowski's conversat...

Doj such as former ag, acting aj rosenstein who tried to influence or tried to say that he needed to wrap up the probe at any point. >> you were saying last night, frank, the other question is a lot of americans might look up and say why are we talking about this still. >> i think that's a danger here. a lot of time has passed since the first time we heard the name robert mueller. a lot of time has passed since the attorney general i think did great damage to this, and really kind of dictated the curve of it by coming out with that four-page letter that was flattering to the president. i don't...

>> there could be a myriad of answers but it boils down to a simple answer. donald trump feels that would accrue to his benefit to do it the way that he did it, so it makes it very easy for strategists, for psychologists, for analysts, for kmcommentator. it's all about me, me, me, and in that context, the answer was very straightforward. >> so benefiting him, amy, to what degree? where would this benefit the president standing side by side with alex acosta, if peter's theory is correct? and also saying he's not a fan of jeffrey epstein. >> right, i'm not sure why it benefits him and why he cho...