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What is the angle of the most recent story and how are you telling the story of the 1.5 million ukrainian refugees running for their lives. >> hi, first of all, thank you for having me here. right now the war is in every part of the country and even if i feel relatively safe in the west of ukraine, of course, we see everywhere that the war is going on and we have shortages in some of the shops and we have everything closed and we hear airplanes in the sky and we have a lot of refugees coming from different parts of the country that is being bombarded. and we also have people who prepared weapo...

Using the war planes if they are transferred they would see as a potential engagement in this conflict. is there a fear that if poland and romania gives the ukraine the migs, russia would attack poland or romania? >> well, i think we should not listen to the spokesperson and listen directly to mr. putin. mr. putin has already said that our economic measures are, our sanctions have brought us into the war. so in his mind we are in this war. eric: tell us about what's in his mind, the russian forces are closing in on kyivi and there's a siege of kyiv, what if we start ad berlin air lift and drop...

Will putin win? >> i don't ever bet on the -- the shall we say the bad guy. i'm not going to bet on it. i believe in the humanity of this world. i believe in what the west stands for and what the people of the west will stand for. and so i don't think mr. putin wins in the long game but the question is in the short game how many ukrainians have to die? eric: putin must not win, just as we faced a similar threat 80 years ago from adolf hitler. retired general philip, former nato supreme allied commander, general, thank you and thank you for your service to our country. >> thank you. eric: arthe...

Pressure point will make him realize that he has to stop? do you think that will never come? >> well, i think the first thing we have to do is support ukraine. first support president zelenskyy because he's mobilizing the west. he's awaken democracies out of post war slummer and we are provided humanitarian assistance. we have to do more. they need more antiship missiles, they need aircraft, fighter aircraft. that's something that's being discussed right now. but they need it urgently. and the goal, i think, for us keep ukraine in the fight and make it clear, president biden should make it cle...

I'm arthel neville. hi, eric. eric: thank you for joining us on this sunday. cities continue to be under siege in ukraine as humanitarian ceasefire failed to halt, russia is bombing the humanitarian corridors and putin's forces are even firing rockets they say near yet another rocket reactor in ukraine. the europeon union refusing to close air space that it could spark a war as nato has turned down a no-fully zone over same fears of the conflict spreading. still ukraine brave president volodymyr zelenksyy pressing his plea for the globe to help. >> the world is strong enough to close our skies...