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and a moderator. he praised each other and bashed the mainstream media. >> no shortage of hit pieces on you in the press over the last week or two. >> i thinks this is a function of these, the legacy media, these corporate journal -- they're in their little bubble. >> i saw a headline from the atlantic basically claiming that anyone who listens to this space on twitter basically a nazi. howard: but by then they'd lost half their audience, so why did ron desantis roll the dice on twitter not blowing up like a spacex rocket? he's hardly a big fan of the mainstream media and not a great...

Governor spoke to fox's trey godden. >> you know, as president, i'm going to make sure woke ideology ends up in the dust bin of history. howard: joining us now to analyze the cover a, ben domenech and in los angeles, leslie marshall. both are fox news contribute us. -- contributors. ben, it was a disastrous lawn. putting that aside, what does, excuse me, what doesnd ron desantis get or not get by aligning himself so closely with elon musk? >> well, i think just to back up a second, i'm not sure it was as disastrous as people think -- howard: because so many journalists were getting impatient? ...