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Lucy, does this represent? if americans cannot trust that there is justice to be had in a country that is supposed to have the rule of law, what are we left with? >> that's a pretty horrible question, kasie. the president is frustrated with his department of justice. he has been. he's frustrated with the attorney general. and he's clearly trying to sort of sow these seeds of doubt about it. as you can see with this fox interview, with the rally, he

Lucy, does this represent? if americans cannot trust that there is justice to be had in a country that is supposed to have the rule of law, what are we left with? >> that's a pretty horrible question, kasie. the president is frustrated with his department of justice. he has been. he's frustrated with the attorney general. and he's clearly trying to sort of sow these seeds of doubt about it. as you can see with this fox interview, with the rally, he wants to do more of them, he's only going to amp up this message. it isn't going to go a what. the other thing we've heard consistently, it goes be...

Pruitt have anything to do with trying to get raises for two of his supporters in the agency where he was told no by the white house, but they found another fund to go around the white house. mr. pruitt was asked by fox news. he categorically denied it. he said he had nothing to do with it. when he found out about it, he stopped it. there are a number of officials who say they don't believe that was the true story, that he did have something to do with it. so is the president aware of this fox interview and what the epa chief said? >> you know, with henry? which one, ed henry? >> yes. >> it ...

Embarrassing themselves. >> well, there's a couple things going on with scott pruitt. the first one i think is that he walked into this job, saw all these people that could afford that lifestyle bike betsy devos who's paying for her own jet out of her own money. and what you're seeing is someone who's trying to be an elitist but doesn't have the money for it. if you wanted a nice apartment in washington, d.c. what you shouldn't do is get a $50 a night and what you shouldn't do is be late on your $50 a night rent. how is that possible that you had to be badgered by the landlord that's also a lo...

Examiner and julian selizer of princeton university. good morning to you. we are getting the first sound bite out of the this fox interview that will air this morning. the president discussions a last minute effort to get the senate health care bill passed. let's watch a portion of it. >> came out on facebook recently you may have seen it. he said your bill is a master transfer of wealth and harm americans and it's mean. what do you day? >> that was my term, mean. i wanted the -- i want to -- i speak from the heart. that's what i want to see. i want to see a bill with heart. health care is a v...