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[ sigh ] it's bring your own phone, not pony. so i could have taken the bus? yeah. bring your phone. switch your carrier. save hundreds a year with xfinity mobile. plus get $100 back when you bring in an eligible phone. call, click, or visit a store today. we are back now, we are having a fascinating conversation. donald trump is back on fox news, the 36th times he had appear on fox outlet. what does he get from going on fox news so often and what does fox gain from all that access. back with me now. brian and eric, just sit tight because we need to let douglas

Director because of the russia investigation or at the very least had it in his mind when he did. joining me from washington d.c., jennifer rubin, olivia nuzzi, still with me at the table joy reed, jason johnson and michelle goldberg. nick confessori. jennifer, that interview was a turning point because we have not had an interview with the president with a non- -- i think this is correct, with a not fox outlet since then, not conservative, sort of friendly outlet since then. i think there's an awareness around the people around him, that they kind of can't let him go out there and talk anymor...

On capitol hill that president trump admitted he fired the fbi director because of the russia investigation or at the very least had it in his mind when he did. joining me from washingtoning ton d.c., jennifer rubon, olivia nitzi, joy reed, jason johnson and michelle goldberg. jennifer, that interview was a turning point because we have not had an interview with the president with a non- -- i think this is correct, with a not fox outlet since then, not conservative, sort of friendly outlet since then. i think there's an awareness around the people around him, that they kind of can't let him go...

Jennifer, that interview was a turning point because we have not had an interview with the president with a non- -- i think this is correct, with a not fox outlet since then, not conservative, sort of friendly outlet since then. i think there's an awareness around the people around him, that they kind of can't let him go out there and talk anymore because there are actual legal ramifications at this point. >> right, and it is not even that they will talk to anyone at fox. they won't talk to chris wallace, for example. they won't talk to brit baer who are news people. he is doing softball inter...