Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130111:20:42:00
Is an energy producer. thinks of themselves that way. upstate new york, not referring to ohio for a second, caskills, that's a park. doesn't devalue it. it revalues it but they fight from a different place. you see? also, pennsylvania is kind of anti-regulation state whereas new york is a state that embraces regulation so you're talking about a five-mile difference. you said you were close to the border of ohio and new york. >> ohio and pennsylvania, right? >> more similar. >> yeah. >> but you watched and i grew up in rochester, new york, a city i love and just there. i watched the jobs emigra...
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