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unions part of the solution or part of the problem? there will be more than 19 million students in college this fall. how to make sure that pricey investment pays off. we begin with a passionate debate over public school reformp. with me steven bril, and he spent two years immersed in thousands of pages of documents and hours in the classroom in an interviews for his book "class warfare." take a look at this poll from 1976 asked if teachers unions, helped, hurt or made no difference in the quality of public school education, 38% said unions hurt it. fast forward to today. that number...

A lot of normal for example worried about these deficits, you know. they're not all hysterical. >> no one is saying they're hysterical. they're concerned about the deficits and jobs. polls show they're more concerned about the jobs than deficits. >> so when you have -- >> look, we have it. >> neil: hysterics and all that, you keep framing it in those terms, what is to stop me or anyone else from saying its you guys who are out of touch because real americans are very worried about this spending boing. >> binge. workers are concerned about the deficit and jobs but today's problem is their jobs....

General petraeus is not looking at july, 2011, as a hard deadline. general mccaffrey, first to you and then you to, bob, how is that going to affect the different constituencies here? because a lot of people are not going to be happy with the way general petraeus is framing it. general mccaffrey? >> yeah, well, andrea, the problem is he's speaking to multiple audiences. you can't isolate one group and talk to the democratic party, talk to the american people. you have the taliban listening, the karzai government. it's hard to imagine this huge, brutal, cruel, primitive country, 28 million peop...

Debt. he started out all wrong by saying, if you have -- if you like the plan you have, you can keep it. and everybody went, well, then what's the problem? why are we spending all this money? >> and bill, i think one of the problems of framing it, morally, for them was at the outset, they gave up the concept of universal coverage. their bill, as they've designed it now, in its most optimistic form, would leave another 15 million, 20 million people without any insurance at all, and so all those same sob stories will exist after this bill takes full effect. so it seems like they couldn't really ...

And everybody went, well, then what's the problem? why are we spending all this money? >> and bill, i think one of the problems of framing it, morally, for them was at the outset, they gave up the concept of universal coverage. their bill, as they've designed it now, in its most optimistic form, would leave another 15 million, 20 million people without any insurance at all, and so all those same sob stories will exist after this bill takes full effect. so it seems like they couldn't really embrace the morality argument because in their moral choice, they were leaving out about half the people....