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Miller. but at the same time, i think what's happened is the conversation on immigration, especially right now has become narrow. it almost becomes that this is all about d.r.e.a.m.ers and daca recipients. you and i both know, 800,000 daca recipients are part of the larger 11 million undocumented population. >> franky, i want to go to you on this. this week started out with donald trump talking about shit hole countries, referring to all 54 countries in africa, essentially haiti and any country where it's a majority non-white population. and also saying he wants to end the diversity visa progr...

Discrimination? franky e does wran is author of "lives of great men, living and loving as an african gay man." jonathan green, and jose antonio vargas, founder and ceo of define america, also the author of "dear america, notes of an undocumented citizen" which will be out in the fall. jose, i have to get your comment before we jury room into this conversation about the ad that the republicans have put out essentially framing, not just the daca recipients, but essentially all undocumented immigrants as murderers and criminals. >> i mean it's a sad, another sad, desperate distraction from the ad...