The people making that call to raffensperger, we'd be behind bars by now. >> well, i think that the main thing that she needs to prove is criminal intent. and i know that we talk about this a lot, but it is an essential element of any kind of fraud claim. all crimes have kind of two components, the bad act, and the guilty mind. the bad act here is pretty apparent, he was demanding that brad raffensperger find in these 11,000 votes. but, if he genuinely believed that he won the election, he may argue, i just wanted what i was entitled to. i thought i had lost even more than 11,000 illegitimate ...