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Unrecountable because you're permanently changing the records, it's also setting a precedent for how people are going to basically discount election results until they continue to recount and audit and do whatever else process until they get the count that they want. >> well, yeah. with regards to that, there are efforts in michigan, new hampshire, california to do the same thing. i'm interested by the fact that in arizona it was approved through a legislative process, the state senate, and then in georgia a judge approved it. this feels like this can happen in so many different ways in differ...

Taking advantage of it or lying about the results. and so, one thing that would be a real shame is if this what's now called a fraud-it in arizona chills our ability to do audits in the future. however, there are some different situations under which you can have a systematic recounts of ballots. you can have it pursuant to a recount which georgia has done three times. right? you could have it -- if there's accusations of irregularity and then there's some sort of proof of them, that then leads to a recount or an audit as well. what you're seeing in georgia right now is sort of pursuant to a l...

Counting the votes. the new republican challenge to democracy and justice in this country means that the candidate who gets the most votes will not necessarily win wherever republicans control state governments like georgia. georgia's new election law appears to allow the republican state legislature to overturn an election if a republican candidate comes in second. new republican election laws are trying to limit the role of courts, the same courts in america that preserved justice by crushing every single election challenge that donald trump's lawyers brought into a courtroom in this country...

Presidency with the cyber ninjas running that fraudulent exercise ever finish what they're doing to those ballots, but it can be seen as a rehearsal in the next republican election. some officials in arizona started attacking the fraudit this week. william gates, a republican member of the board of supervisors, said this today. >> some people are reporting to me the republican national committee supports what's going on right now at veterans memorial coliseum? they support known con -- conspiracy theorists, using lights to detect bamboo? i would think the rnc right now would want to be sharpen...

Before we go yearbook truther. yes, we have an obligation to be skeptical. if it's a fraud it would have an impact on people's assessment. but it is is clearly an attempt to distract and deflect and muddy the accusations because there's not going to be a clear resolution. >> john is, john, let's get -- let's get one thing straight. >> let's get a lot of things straight. >> i tried cases involving claims of forgery. i'm not saying that this is true. i'm telling you how it will play out publicly. i'm telling you how moore's lawyer is going to try to turn this into a truther. >> let me inject for...